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Hello everyone. Welcome to today's
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webinar training on summer classes and
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activities on what to take and why it
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matters. Uh if y'all haven't already
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planned out for the summer, uh this is
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the right session for you. Uh you all
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should be thinking about what kind of
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summer enrichment, whether that's the
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activities or the um courses that you
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need to take. So we're going to cover
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all those different things. So for
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today, we're going to talk about why
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summer programs matter. Uh whether you
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should consider doing academics versus
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extracurriculars. uh we're going to talk
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about some types of activities and uh
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ways to think about it on h what will
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boost your application, how to get into
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summer programs and then at the very end
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stick around for some more resources,
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recommendations on summer programs that
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you can apply to. So we curate a list
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and if you don't have it already, we'll
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share it with you. Uh quick
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housekeeping, uh if you don't mind, uh
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just sharing what exact graduation year
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that you're in just so that I know who
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to cater the audience to. And also
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throughout this entire session, feel
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free to drop your Q&A in the box and
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then uh we can be able to uh answer it
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uh at the very end. And also replay
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notes will always be available at the
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very end. Awesome. I see some 2028s,
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2027, 2026. Great, great, great. And uh
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for myself, if you haven't met me
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already, uh I'm Coach Victor with Eagle.
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I used to be a former UC Berkeley's
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admissions outreach coordinator and
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instructor teaching a class on how to
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get into graduate school. going to all
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these sorts of different high schools
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across California on how to get into
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college. And also, fun fact, I was a
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full ride UC Berkeley scholar for
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undergrad and graduate school. So,
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didn't have to take out a single loan
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thankfully. And also in terms of my
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background, I worked in K through2
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education policy, worked in edtech, and
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now also as an admissions adviser. So,
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that being said, uh super excited to be
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able to share this webinar with you and
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continue to stay engaged throughout this
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entire time. So, pop quiz uh for in the
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chat. Do top tier universities care
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about what you do over the summer? Yes
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or no? What do folks think? Uh, do they
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care or
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not? I see one.
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Yes. Any other ideas? Yes. Okay. Yes.
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I'm guessing people are like, uh, oh, is
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this a trick question or not? So, uh,
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the answer is yes. Of course, they want
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to know. And, uh, let's let's understand
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why, right? because the summer time is
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really the only time where you can
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differentiate yourself. Generally
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speaking, all the the entire academic
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year, you're typically doing the same
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kind of things, the same courses and
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maybe similar uh activities or clubs
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that that are on campus. But aside from
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that, the summertime is the way to
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differentiate yourself. So, we're going
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to talk about why summer experiences
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matter. And as I mentioned,
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differentiation, uh that's kind of the
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main goal here is what is it that you
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can do over the summertime that can
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stand out in comparison to your peers.
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Furthermore, thinking about uh personal
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learning as well. Uh the whole point
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isn't necessarily just to look good for
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college applications, but really think
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of it as like a way to uh learn more
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about yourself, learn more about the
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particular field that you're interested
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in, and especially being able to advance
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your uh your academic learning. And so
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uh that's the first bullet point here in
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terms of the academic rigor taking
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harder courses or more enrichment
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opportunities where you can get to the
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next level. Again what colleges want to
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understand is can you handle the amount
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of rigor expected at a university and
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they determine that based off honors
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courses, AP courses, AP test scores,
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dual enrollment and also any enrichment
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of programs that you've participated in
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as well. Secondly, preventing summer
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slide. There is a known uh scientific
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study where students tend to uh get
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lower grades in the fall because they
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haven't practiced their academic skills.
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If you haven't done math for 3 months,
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it's more likely that you might forget
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some concepts. So that's why it's really
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important to keep fresh, especially for
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those who are doing like SATs maybe in
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the fall. That's something that you want
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to be careful about. Third, exploring
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potential college and career interest
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because when you apply to colleges, they
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always want to know why do you want to
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do this? Uh why do you want to study
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this particular field? And also, if
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you're applying to private schools,
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they're going to ask you, why is it that
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you want to apply to this school
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specifically? So, what better way to do
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it than just fly out there or go out
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there if you can with your resources
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that are available and just check it
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out. And lastly, increases motivation
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for the school year. Okay? Uh, if you
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are a parent and you're here
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representing your child, but your child
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isn't here and you struggle with like,
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how do I encourage my kid to be able to
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take college admissions more seriously?
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Well, the summertime is the best time
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for that because you think about it,
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it's the only time where they can kind
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of take a retreat away from school to
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really self-evaluate what do they really
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want to do in the future, right? And
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this is where exposing them to as many
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different things as possible to see
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what's pos uh to see what's out there
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like possible colleges, possible
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careers, and being able to get them to
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reflect on all those exposure activities
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will be able to hopefully uh propel them
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forward.
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And so uh let's talk about academics
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versus extracurriculars. What is it that
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you should be uh considering? So when we
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come to academics, right, what we're
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talking about here is one like courses
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like dual enrollment. That's typically
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the main thing that we really focus on
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which is taking courses at the community
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college. The reason why this is
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important is because it's smarter and
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faster. And what I mean by that is you
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don't have to take an AP test in order
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to get college credit. So, for example,
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calculus AB is a fullyear course and you
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have to get a four or five on the AP
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test in order to qualify for college
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credit. But you could just go to
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community college and take calculus one
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and that is already fulfills the uh the
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calculus AB requirement. And also the
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thing uh to think about is if you take
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the same courses as everyone else,
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you're going to look like the same as
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everyone else. So, the goal is to
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diversify your academic schedule so that
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you can appear differently. So, taking a
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dual enrollment course, especially at
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the community college, is going to be
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super helpful. For those who uh uh
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didn't attend my webinar on how I was
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able to get a full ride scholarship to
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Berkeley, I also talked about how I did
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dual enrollment way back in the day.
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This was like 200 like 9 or 8 or
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something like that. And being able to
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take like uh like calculus over the
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summer time was also one of those things
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that I did. Second thing, enrichment,
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research opportunities or pre-ol
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programs. uh is it really required to
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like really participate in these summer
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programs? Not really, right? But at the
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same time, we want to show that you are
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taking steps further advanced. And uh
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the thing about the colleges, we
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recognize and understand that this isn't
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supposed to be like a pay to uh play
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kind of like uh process, right? Um even
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if you don't have access to these
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enrichment programs, you could still be
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able to kind of do your own self-study
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or your own self-ressearch. So for
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example uh some people might be doing
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their personal project and that is a
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form of uh academic enrichment itself as
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well from that like a formal institution
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but actually just doing it yourself um
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even at home and that's where we talk
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about the personal projects um and that
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kind of relates to the extracurriculars
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as as well actually. So going to
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extracurriculars, uh some examples of
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what this might look like is career
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oriented events like so for example uh
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doing like an internship over the summer
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to be able to get exposure to work uh
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work experience uh being able to shadow
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somebody uh and maybe even doing like a
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project for that particular company if
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you can. The goal is to be able to
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understand what exactly are you learning
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from school and how does it apply to the
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real life work experience because think
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of it this way if you're able to write
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in your uh personal statements or in
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your personal insight questions about
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hey I can see that this particular skill
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that I want to learn in college is going
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to help me to be able to achieve this
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particular job or be able to make this
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particular impact because I saw it
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myself by through an internship. you
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have shown a lot of maturity in that uh
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in that personal statement because you
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understand about how the skills connect
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directly to the careers. Second thing is
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leadership and services. Uh so for
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example volunteer programs, fellowships
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going out and serving the community in
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some type of way. Uh what the colleges
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look for is really to understand will
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you benefit this uh this college
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community? Will you be an asset to your
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community and help it grow and help it
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flourish? And so that's why they seek
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out people that do volunteering. It's
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not just because it looks good on the
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college admissions process because it
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fits into the culture of the college.
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And the colleges want to know are you
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just going to go through school and just
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like focus on academics or are you
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actually going to try to contribute back
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to our college uh campus? And lastly is
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passion based whether that's arts,
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sports, music or just doing something
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right. Uh ideally, you know, the the
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goal is to be able to do kind of more of
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the career oriented or leadership
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service, right? The passion base is
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still very much uh important. If you're
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not doing any of the career or
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leadership service, at least the passion
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base of doing art, sports, or music or
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whatever it is is still fine, too. The
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most important thing is thinking about
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what did you learn from those
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experiences and how does it help you
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understand what you want to do later on
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in the future, whether that's in college
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or your career, and what is it that you
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want to do with this particular like uh
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activity. So um at the end of the day
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the kind of recommendation here is to do
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both. Uh it's not about doing just
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academic or just doing extracurriculars
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or trying to decide like which one is
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the best. The way to think about it is
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summer experience should be additive to
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admissions. What I mean by that is uh it
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never really looks bad on admissions if
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you do something else, right? Like they
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will do a comprehensive review where
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they will review everything that you've
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been involved in and everything that you
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do is like a building block to be able
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to say like this is what builds this
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particular profile. So in ways there
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isn't necessarily something bad that you
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can do um unless you talk about it
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poorly. But but what I mean by that is
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uh even if you think about like just the
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capacity of a student, okay, uh a lot of
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parents have told me like, hey, I'm
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really worried about can my kid actually
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handle uh a internship while also doing
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um a dual enrollment course. Well, the
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way to think about it also is like uh
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how many hours does it really take to
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really be able to take a class, right?
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Or how many hours is an internship
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really uh for this particular summer
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experience? Most high school summer
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experiences, they only go for about 5
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hours to 10 or in rare cases 10 to 20
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hours when you're doing a lot more
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hours. But even then, you still have
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like the rest of the entire week to
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really be able to uh dedicate yourself
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to either the academics or the um the
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summer uh opportunity extracurriculars.
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And also the last thing to consider is
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what is energy generating to students.
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Remember, the whole point about
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activities is to be able to demonstrate
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to universities, what is it that you're
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doing right now that is encouraging you
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or motivating you to continue to go to
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college. And I would suspect that the
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activities that students are doing,
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they're doing it because they want to do
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it. It's not because they have to do it,
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but it's because they want to continue
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learning and exploring this particular
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field. So in ways instead of thinking
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about like how extracurriculars can like
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take a toll on students in reality
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that's what students might love to do.
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If anything uh the extracurriculars
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could be actually a lot more enjoyable
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more than the actual academics itself.
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So that being said don't limit your kid
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to just the uh academics. Give them the
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opportunity to explore the
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extracurriculars because that gives them
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energy. And on that point, right, I want
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to uh kind of uh there's this diagram
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that I was able to find about the uh
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power of full engagement. Okay, in most
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uh cases, a lot of parents and students
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tend to limit their uh their days based
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off time. You're trying to time manage
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something. You're trying to make sure
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that you get the best bang for your
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buck. And the way to do that is like by
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saying like, "Hey, how much time should
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I dedicate to each thing?" And the thing
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is time is fixed, right? Meaning that
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there's only certain number of hours
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each day. And so therefore you're gonna
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like kind of problem solve and try to
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see what you can fit uh within a given
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week. But the thing is there is a
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concept of can you find energy
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generating activities where energy is
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not fixed where you can find the
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particular things that students love to
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do in their extracurriculars that give
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them more energy to do more things. And
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by being able to do that, you actually
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increase their happiness. You increase
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their uh alertness and performance, and
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they just start feeling connected to
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what is it that they're doing on a
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day-to-day basis. A lot of parents have
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asked me in the past like, "How do I get
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my kids motivated to do something?"
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Well, the first thing is figure out what
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are energy generating activities that
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they can do. And then you attach that
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with something else that they can
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explore. So for example, if they really
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love to play sports, then great, like
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have them play sports and then uh if
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they want to explore some type of career
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or some type of uh other academic study
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with it, then see if you can kind of
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pair it together whether uh maybe you
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playing basketball at the particular
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college itself uh or uh I don't know
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having that particular activity
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accessessible to the other activity that
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you're trying to associate with each
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other. Uh for those who uh attended my
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habits um webinar in the past, we talked
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about habit stacking. Try to attach
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something that they enjoy with something
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that they're trying a new habit that
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you're trying to create. And then that's
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a habit stack right there. And then
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you're able to kind of uh make that an
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energy generating activity as well. So
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that being said, the kind of takeaway
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from here is doing both academic and
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extracurriculars and being able to see
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that the extracurriculars are a way to
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generate more energy so that way they
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can uh self-retain themselves in the
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academics. All right, I digress. Let's
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go to the next part which is how to
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choose the right academic courses which
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a lot of uh students and and parents
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come to our office hours to be able to
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ask. So remember that there are three
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pathways into admissions that we talked
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about or communicate here. The first
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pathway is computer science and
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engineering. Second is STEM and
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business. And third is everything else.
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Depending on which pathway you decide to
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go to, that's going to determine your
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competition and what exactly they look
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for. So, first off, computer science and
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engineering is the hardest pathway. So,
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let's talk about what exactly it is that
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you need in order to get there. So,
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during the summertime, consider taking
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uh math courses. Usually, math is the
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biggest differentiation here for this
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particular pathway. So, calculus 1 and
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calculus 2 are equivalent to calculus AB
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and BC. Remember what we talked about is
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that at the uh high school, typically
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you might take calculus AB and BC in two
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separate years. Or if you're lucky, then
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you can skip all the way to BC. But if
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you take calculus AB and BC in two
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separate years, that's two years worth
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of taking courses. So, instead of doing
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that, go to dual uh take a dual
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enrollment course, take calculus one for
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one semester, calculus 2 in a second
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semester, and you complete it in half
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the time. and then go to calculus 3
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which is multivariable calculus.
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Generally speaking, a lot of students or
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a lot of schools do not have access to
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that. So, uh remember that you're going
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to be compared against your school and
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your geographical location. So, the way
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to think about it is how do I
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differentiate myself more? Cuz if you
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take the same course as everyone else,
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you're going to look like the same as
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everyone else. So the goal is to be able
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to take that course that gets you
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further ahead because calculus uh
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multivariable calculus and also linear
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algebra and differential equations.
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These are college level courses that you
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would typically take in undergrad. And
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remember what the universities are
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looking for is can you handle the amount
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of rigor at a university. So that's why
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you would go for those particular
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courses. Second of all, uh you should
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also be completing AP physics 1, 2, and
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C on UC Scott. If you are um uh if you
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have AP physics at your school, right?
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Typically, you might have only like one
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physics course or two physics course
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depending on what type of resource
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school that you have. But generally
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speaking, not a lot of uh high schools
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actually have all three of them. And so
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if you don't, this is actually a good
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thing. This is where you can actually
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strategize. as it makes it easier for
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you to choose because let's say your
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school offers AP physics 1 and AP
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physics C. Great. Take AP Physics 2 on
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uccout.org because that is going to get
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you further ahead because you are taking
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a course that no one else at school is
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taking. Third, uh complete AP computer
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science principles and A on UC scout as
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well. Uh sometimes some schools might
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only have AP computer science
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principles. So in that case take AP
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computer science A. And so that is the
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kind of way to think about it is what is
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the courses that students generally tend
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to take and what is it that you can take
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that is different from them.
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Furthermore, remember a grade is always
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better than saying that's in progress. A
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lot of students might say, "Well, I'm
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taking that in 12th grade." Yeah, sure.
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But remember that if you have a grade
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level already attached to it, that gives
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you a boost up because you um have shown
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that you have proficiency in it. When
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you're enrolled in it, that just says
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that okay, they're enrolled in it.
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they're in the process of taking it, but
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I don't know how they're actually going
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to do. And so, you give a you give the
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readers more certainty if you have that
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grade attached to it. All right, the
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second one is STEM and business. So,
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remember that there are um uh this is al
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also really looking at math as well. So,
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STEM and business is really interested
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in the math and sciences. It's not as
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highly rigorous though as the computer
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science and uh and the engineering
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pathway because there's usually a lot
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math for that. And I I know that some
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parents uh will say, "Well, isn't STEM
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engineering?" Well, yes, but then we
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separate engineering out because the uh
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engineering and computer science fields
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just tend to be more competitive
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generally. And so for STEM and business,
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you just you can just get to calculus uh
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3, which is multivariable calculus, and
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you'll be pretty good there. But also uh
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the other classes that you should focus
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on instead is the AP biology, AP
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chemistry on UC Scout, especially for
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those who are in the premed route,
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right? Uh getting those courses done is
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going to be really crucial. And if your
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your high school does not have these
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courses, then great. That makes it
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easier for you to be able to choose
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this. And yes, you can do at your high
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school as well. There's no uh there's
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not like necessarily like a significant
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benefit between like taking under high
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school or UC scout, but at least by
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taking on UC Scout, you're able to show
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to them that like, hey, I am actively
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trying to go out of my way to learn more
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on my own time. So, it does show that
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you're taking initiative. Lastly, is the
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dual enrollment courses on general
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education courses.
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So, every single uh state has their own
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kind of uh general education
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requirements to transfer from a 2-year
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community college to a 4-year
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university. So, for example, California,
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it's Calgati, formerly I get Texas has
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the Texas core curriculum. Washington
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has a direct transfer agreement. Every
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single state has their own kind of name
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to it, right? So, figure out what that
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is and then just take those courses.
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Usually, we recommend taking courses
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like uh like psychology or sociology
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just because they tend to be easy for
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students to pass the first time. So, if
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it's your kid's first time uh to take a
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community college course, that might be
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the easiest one to take uh at the very
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moment just because they tend to do
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really well. Uh furthermore, if you want
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to take an easy course, remember to work
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smarter, not harder. You can look up
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ratemyprofessors.com to see if uh these
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professors are easy to take because
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students are rating them. And again, the
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goal is to get the easiest professors
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possible. Don't try to make it harder
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for yourself by taking like a difficult
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professor. So, look up what those
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requirements are and then any of those
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requirements are going to look good.
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Meaning that since the general education
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requirements are for a four-year degree,
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it doesn't matter which major that you
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decide to go into. Uh the courses are
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still going to look good no matter what.
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And uh if uh sometimes we get the
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question too like what can I take
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business courses? Yes, you can if you're
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trying to major in business, but also
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consider what's actually transferable.
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Uh so each state also has a website
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where you can check if the two-year um
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community college course can transfer to
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that four-year. And so for California,
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it's like assist.org where you can see
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if the business course that you're
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taking actually transfers to a required
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course over at the at the 4-year
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university. And this is important
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because you don't want to just take any
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course at the dual enrollment. You want
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to take courses that are actually
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recognized by the 4-year institution
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that this is a qualified college credit
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course. So don't just take anything on a
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on a course catalog. Take the ones that
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actually apply to these particular
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requirements. All right. And the last
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one, everything else. So if you're like
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a humanities, social science major or
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anything that's not STEM, business or
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computer science or engineering related,
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uh in this case, right, just taking
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general high rigorous courses. So by
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completing online AP courses and taking
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the dual enrollment courses is the
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strategy here. So there's not much of an
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emphasis about trying to get as high
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much possible in terms of math uh
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because you're not trying to compete for
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those really rigorous like STEM uh
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majors but you want to still be able to
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differentiate yourself by taking more
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dual enrollment courses uh that other
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students don't have. Okay. So that's the
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kind of academic recommendations there.
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So next is about the extracurriculars.
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How do you choose the right summer
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programs? So, uh before you we like, you
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know, just go straight to a list and
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think about, hey, this one sounds good,
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this one sounds good, and like uh this
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one is um I don't know, aligned to my
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major. You want to ask yourself first,
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what is your actual learning objective?
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What is the actual challenge that you're
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trying to be able to accomplish this
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coming summer? So, usually when it comes
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to students, right, there are three
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types of issues that you generally will
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see. There's an awareness issue, a
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skills issue, and a motivation issue.
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So, we're going to dive into each one
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about what it exactly means. So, first
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off with awareness issues, right?
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Awareness issues is where you don't know
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what careers or majors are out there.
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Uh, and generally speaking, it's it's
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the kind of quote that you tend to say,
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I don't know what I what I don't know,
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right? And the thing is, you just don't
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have enough exposure yet. You don't know
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what possible routes are there. you
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don't know like anything about the
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workforce or about what majors even
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exist and this is where uh programs or
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experiences can be really helpful for
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acknowledge for addressing the awareness
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issue. So for example, one is career
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exploration programs. So going to career
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fairs, shadowing, you know, and when
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you're shadowing, it doesn't have to be
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a perfect alignment to what you want to
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do. Uh it's okay to try something out
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and just know that you just don't like
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it. If you don't like something, then
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that's fine. That's great information
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for yourself to be able to continue
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onward. Second is like pre-ol programs.
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So going to like Harvard pre-ol,
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Stanford summer sessions. These are
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great exposure to be able to see what a
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college campus is like where you live on
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the dorms for uh like a week or two and
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you get to experience what's it like to
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be a college student. This can be very
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helpful especially for the students who
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maybe don't feel like they really want
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to go to college or they're not really
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sure because by being able to be on a
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college campus, you can imagine yourself
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there and then you can be able to feel
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motivated and backwards map what is it
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that you want to do. Third thing is
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informational interviews and job
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shadowing. This is something that is
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totally under underrated, but people
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need to do it way more often, which is
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instead of interviewing for like a job
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or or anything. You're you're
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interviewing somebody else uh about what
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is it they do, what is it that uh what's
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what's their like work life like? And
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the goal is to be able just to learn and
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understand more about what it takes to
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get to that particular career. And just
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think of it this way, if you are
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interested in becoming like a
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dermatologist, right? You can go to
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class, you can take all the courses
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relating to dermatology. You can uh you
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know take your bio, your science, and
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then work your way up until you finally
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get to the dermatology course uh in
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medical school. Or better yet, why not
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just talk to somebody? Why not just talk
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to a dermatologist yourself? You don't
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need to take all these courses to uh
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validate whether if this is the career
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that you want to go into. instead just
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find a dermatologist and then be able to
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talk with them about what their
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experience is like. Those informational
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interviews are pivotal because they help
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students learn much faster. So again,
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the goal is to reduce the gap between
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learning experiences and informational
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interviews are the quickest way to be
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able to understand what does a student
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really want. If you are a parent right
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now listening and you wanted to be able
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to uh get your kid to figure out what
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type of job they want to do, set up
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conversations with your co-workers or
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your friends with your student so that
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way like they they can be able to get
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more exposure and learning and teach
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them how to network as well like learn
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how to have a conversation with adults
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like just having something as simple as
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that. Uh fourth is industry specific
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workshops. So there's a lot of STEM boot
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camps out there. Usually these are more
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like local based where they might have
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like uh like a weekly experience where
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you can be able to have some type of
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enrichment. Those are also really good.
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And lastly, volunteering like working at
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a hospital, working for a nonprofit,
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city government, doesn't really matter.
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Again, the goal is just to be able to
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get them out there and expose themsel.
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And I always uh teach this to the
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parents I work with, which is you need
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two parts. Exposure and reflection.
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Exposure to try out as many things as
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possible. And don't forget the
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reflection piece which is what did you
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learn from that experience because that
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reflection is what helps you helps them
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understand whether it's something they
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like or don't like. All right. Next part
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is the skills issue where you don't have
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skills or experiences to actually do the
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job. So this is where maybe you're aware
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of yes I know that I want to uh be an
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aerospace engineer. I know that I want
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to kind of go down this path. And just
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so you know, you don't have to choose
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specifically what particular career
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title or job that you want to be when uh
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in your college apps. You just got to
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know your general direction. And that's
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why we talk about pathways because you
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don't always know what your major is.
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Most students t tend to change their
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majors anyway. But just think about if
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once you know what direction that you
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want to go towards, then the next step
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becomes okay, what skills and
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experiences do I need to be able to be
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successful in this particular route. And
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so very first thing uh is internships
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and apprenticeships. So being able to
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work for a particular company and
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getting the kind of uh fundamental
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skills, understanding what the workplace
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is like and also that gives you a lot of
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exposure to the people at the uh
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workplace. So you can talk to uh the
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engineers there, you can talk to any of
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the workers that are working at that
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same place. So that way you can do more
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informational interviews. Second thing
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is project-based learning and research
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lab. So sometimes uh just being able to
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create this kind of goes along with the
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personal project in a way where you
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don't necessarily need a summer program
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to really be able to uh enrich yourself.
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You can always work on something
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yourself. Uh for example, a lot of uh
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coders really love to be able to create
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their own application, create their own
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game and that's something that they
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could do at home whether by themselves
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with their friends or their family. And
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uh that's something that they are
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applying the actual skills to that
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project and that helps them understand
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uh what skills am I missing from that
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particular opportunity and then they
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self teach themselves to be able to
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problem solve it. Also being a part of
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research or lab is also effective as
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well. So being able to possibly uh
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research under a professor you can do
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the cold outreaching which is being able
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to email as many professors as possible
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saying like hey I'm very invested and
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interested in your research. I'm
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wondering if there's a way that I could
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participate in a research experience
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with you over the summer. That's totally
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possible as well. Third, hackathon and
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competitions. Uh there's a lot of
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students uh in our program that are part
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of DECA Science Olympiad. So, being able
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to participate in those uh freelancing
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and gig work if uh you're if you are a
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student and you want to learn how to
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make money already, uh there's a part
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maybe a particular skill that you
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already have and you just need more
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practice with it. And so you can
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potentially uh do some freelancing work
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and get people to pay you. Especially
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like let's say for example you're a
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graphic designer. That is something that
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you could be able to uh outsource and
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potentially get money for it. And lastly
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uh online certificate courses. So just
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taking online like skills courses on
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like Corsera Udami. These are things
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that are just like kind of structured
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learning if you're like kind of a
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studious person. But also to remember
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that for this particular online study,
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make sure that you try to apply what
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you're learning as well because the
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application is what's really important
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for the admission side. Lastly is
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motivation, which is I don't feel like
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doing anything this summer. This is
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where uh students here, they might not
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really be that interested in college,
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right? And that's that's okay. You know,
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that happens to a lot of different
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students. And and the reason why uh
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motivation is just not there is just
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because there isn't a strong sense of
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vision about what they actually want to
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do or what they really want to see for
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themselves in the future. And so just by
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being able to do more like exploratory
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enrichment kind of programs would be
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helpful in this case. So, for example,
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travel and cultural exchange programs by
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going to a different country and seeing
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like other cultures that are not just
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the ones here in the US is also
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effective because it lets them see like
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the world in a different light and that
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can give them much more perspective.
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Usually, motivation is an issue of
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perspective where you just don't see
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certain things the way uh other people
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have seen it and what what encourages
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them. Second, sports and outdoor
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adventures. Just being able to get more
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physically active is really going to be
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helpful as well. Uh because uh that will
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increase their endorphins and be able to
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apply it to um think more further ahead.
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Creative arts and media programs getting
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just very creative just generally
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speaking service learning and mission
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trips by volunteering and uh being able
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to give back to the community. And
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lastly, mentorship and coaching
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programs. So if you notice a lot of this
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is very relational based. It's not very
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much it's not career based as much but
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that's okay because uh at least you are
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getting out of the house and being able
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to try something out and just by having
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fun that opens the brain opens the mind
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to be able for new experiences and uh to
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talk about college. It's possible that a
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lot of students are just not ready to
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talk about college and that's just
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because like they haven't necessarily uh
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open their mind enough to really think
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about it just yet. And so sometimes just
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taking a retreat will be able to help
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that. All right, so next part is finding
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and applying to summer programs. Okay.
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Uh what is like an effective way to be
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able to figure out what are the right
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summer programs? And to be quite honest,
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if you're right now still trying to
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figure out what your summer programs are
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in April, it might be very difficult to
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be able to do that. So you might not
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really be able to apply to any specific
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program because usually a lot of
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deadlines are like either now or they
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already passed. But if you're lucky,
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you'll be able to find some. Uh so first
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off, the most effective way is to
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network with the winners. Meaning like
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talk to other families or other
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students. And if you're part of our
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coaching programs, you can always ask
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our staff directly in our uh chatting uh
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service where you can be able to figure
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out what are some relevant summer
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programs that relate to X or Y, right?
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And just being able to talk to people,
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you'll be able to uh see what either
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what they experienced or what their kids
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experienced or what have their other
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friends or connections have experienced
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as well. By being able to just kind of
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get a referral is going to help you go a
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long ways because if you can find
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somebody, if you know somebody who went
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to college and ideally maybe your top
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college choice, you can ask them like,
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"Hey, what did you do while you're in
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high school? what was the summer
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experiences that you've uh done to get
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you to Harvard or Berkeley or whatever.
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So in this case, right, um just being
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able to connect with your networks or
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older like siblings or cousins will be
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effective like first start. Secondly is
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online research. Uh what do online
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communities including Eagle recommend?
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And so just even through a simple Google
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search is honestly going to really be
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helpful as well. If you just Google
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search like summer program for I don't
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know San Jose, California, that's where
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I'm based at right now. uh you can be
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able to find things that uh that like
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pop up and you never know what is it
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that you can find and also even Reddit
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as well. Reddit is a really great place
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to be able to find some uh new
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information. And again um I wish there
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was like a single data database or
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source of truth for all the summer
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programs. But generally speaking, when
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it comes to summer programs, there's so
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many that are coming up every single
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year and sometimes they don't always do
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the same thing every single year either.
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So most of the stuff that you find in
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databases will tend to be outdated
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anyways. So that being said, the kind of
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summer experiences that I might have had
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would probably be very different from
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what it is
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now. All right. And uh so let's talk
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about applying. And um the the most
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important thing is that when you apply,
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right, the goal is to be able to fit the
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profile that they are looking for. And
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so before you just go in right away and
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try to answer the questions and uh send
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in your resume and all that such, you
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want to make sure that you get different
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sources of information, understand like
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what they're looking for on their
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website. Uh review some testimonials of
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other students that have uh completed
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the program. try to talk to alumni using
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informational interviews and also maybe
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apply uh or join a few of those webinars
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because sometimes they haveformational
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sessions that you could be able to learn
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more from the uh program officer like
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who are they looking for? Uh in this
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case like uh like for example for myself
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when I applied to like fellowships back
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in the day I was like uh LinkedIn
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profile looking across all the people
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who got into this particular fellowship.
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I tried to understand what kind of uh
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people they tend to accept. I tried to
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network with two or three alumni of the
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fellowship program. I also even went to
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career fairs to try to talk to the
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fellowship coordinator. Like I did all
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those different things before applying
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and that actually got me into that
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fellowship that I was very fortunate for
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which was the city halls fellowship
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which is a postgrad thing. That's not
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something for high school per se. But um
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what what I did there though is that I'm
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trying to be able to understand what is
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the profile, how can I fit, what is
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exactly is it that they're looking for.
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And so usually you can kind of pair it
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down to just being able to understand
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what are the kind of core attributes,
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right? So for example, if you're
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applying to like Cosmos for example,
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which is a very popular program, right?
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Uh they're usually looking for STEM
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students or people who are very
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interested in the kind of the
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engineering fields. And um it's possible
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uh and I'm just making this up. It's
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very possible that uh what you discover
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by talking to a few people who actually
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went through the Cosmos program is that
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they had a uh very strong like
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engineering project that they have done
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previously. Like they are part of some
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engineering classes and it's possible
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they're very high rigorous in math and
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it's possible that they were able to
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compete in some competitions or
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something of that sort. Uh again just
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making this up. This is just an example
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just for like for teaching purposes. And
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again, the goal here is be able to
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identify what are those like kind of uh
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key points that you notice at least for
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the alumni or the people that you've
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done research for to be able to
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understand okay like how do I mirror
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that? How do I communicate the same type
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of attributes that they're looking for
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and that to show that there is a
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connection between uh me as an ideal
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profile for this particular program. And
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in fact, anyways, you're kind of doing
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the same thing right now, right? trying
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to be able to apply to college
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admissions. Uh what are what is the idea
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of uh profile of college admissions?
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It's it's very similar at the same time.
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And so when you're talking about this in
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your uh in your resume or in your
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application, there's a very helpful uh
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framework called the STAR framework to
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be able to talk about the experiences
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that you've had. So the goal is to be
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able to communicate your value that you
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bring to this particular program. So the
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way to do that is bring up examples. You
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always want to bring up examples of what
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have you done that is related to this
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particular program. So first off is ask
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for situation where you introduce the
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situation or the challenge. This is
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setting the context or setting the stage
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of what exactly happened. The task is
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what were you required to achieve?
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Describe the purpose like what was the
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goal of this particular activity you're
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doing. It's possible that you were part
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a part of a club. you're part of uh some
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type of community and you were required
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to achieve a particular like outcome
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like this an event to be successful or
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some type of uh project to be
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successful. Action what did you do to
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overcome the challenge? This is where
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you walk us through uh step by step what
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did you had to do to achieve the
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particular end result of the outcome of
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your actions. And so and and the results
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is very uh important to also expand that
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on that a little bit more. And one thing
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I'll add to the the question of results
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is why was this important? Why is this
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result so important for this situation?
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And you're showing like a sense of
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maturity of like the underlying reason
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um that you are trying to accomplish
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this particular goal. And then later on
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you can also connect it to the uh the
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mission and the purpose of the summer
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program that you're trying to apply to.
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So again trying to connect the dots here
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right uh the attributes you know the
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attributes they're looking for. So try
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to describe a situation that speaks
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directly to that attribute and remind
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them as well at the very end uh based
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off this I could based off this
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particular uh event or situation. this
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is why uh I think that I deserve to be a
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part of this program because this
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program will help me be able to expand
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on X Y and Z.
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And then uh also uh to consider as well
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for letters of recommendations if they
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are required. Uh something to consider
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is uh can your recommener talk about uh
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these particular attributes and some
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things to consider as well right it
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depends on the summer program that
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you're trying to apply to whether it's
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like a extracurricular career based
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versus like academic based. So you want
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to understand do I need an academic or
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professional reference is it better to
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have a teacher or is it better to have
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like maybe a previous employer um or
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somebody who can speak to my
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extracurriculars. Uh, also to consider
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is what's their sentiment level? Do you
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actually feel close to this person that
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can write your letter of recommendation?
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How long have you like known them or
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worked with them? And lastly, what's
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their confidence in their writing
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capability? Something to always make
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sure about, you can't assume every
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single adult can write a strong
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recommendation letter. You want to be
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able to give them a brag sheet or give
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them things that they can work with so
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that they can be able to be successful.
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So, if you um were part of my letters of
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recommendation webinar a few weeks ago,
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remember that the important thing is to
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be able to create talking points for
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your recommenders. So, that's easy for
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them to be able to uh write about you.
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And then lastly, discuss with them prior
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to understand if this is something um if
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you can answer all four of these kind of
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questions
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here. And last thing I'll just cover
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real briefly is the rΓ© writing. I'm not
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going to go through a whole resume
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workshop because that could take really
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long. But simply just being able to do
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some research on the company, what
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exactly are they looking for? Try to
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keep it clean, keep it simple, and uh
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you you can use the situation, action,
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result kind of framework. Uh you might
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not necessarily need the task in there,
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but use the I guess SAR framework there
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in that case uh to be able to talk about
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your experiences. Um update your work
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experience to reflect the specific
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qualifications they're looking for.
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Remember, if you can identify the
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attributes, try to backwards map it. And
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it will be great if you can use exact
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specific keywords from the application
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into your resume so that it's like a
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onetoone match. And then speak to the
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results of your actions, which a lot of
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students tend to forget. It's not just
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about doing it, it's about what was the
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result of your actions. And lastly, mult
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uh proofread it with multiple pe uh
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people because you never know if your
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writing uh doesn't sound as good as you
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think.
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All right. So, last thing is some common
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mistakes and how to avoid them. Uh, one
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is where you're just a general
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applicant. You're not actually
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connecting directly to the attributes.
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If I were to copy and paste your uh
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summer application to any other company
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or any other summer program, would it
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would it sound the same? Right? That's a
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kind of a litmus test to see if this
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actually um is connected to that
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particular uh profile they're looking
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for. Second is lack of clear goals. Uh
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you're not really sure about what kind
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of summer experience you want. You're
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just kind of throwing anything uh onto
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the wall and see what sticks. But you
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want to be very intentional whether what
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particular issue are you trying to
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address here. Uh waiting too long. Uh so
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don't just wait to apply. Uh try to be
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able to look at summer programs on a
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like daily basis or weekly basis of
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what's out there. So maybe some folks
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are going to be looking for summer
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programs right after this call. Uh but
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try to keep that a consistent habit to
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see what is actually out there for
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yourself. Uh not proofreading. Uh so the
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way that you might read an application
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versus somebody else could be totally
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different. If you're a part of our
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program or community, uh consider being
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able to use our college essay service uh
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where you can actually submit your
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summer apps to us and we'll review it
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and give it back to you within 72, 48 or
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24 hours depending on which program
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you're part of. So, know that you can
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rely on us to be able to review um your
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essays and your
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applications. All right. Now, let's get
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to the final part of some resources and
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then we'll go into Q&A. Okay. Uh so, if
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whole bunch of summer programs that you
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can consider. Uh note though that a lot
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of the uh admissions might be already
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your summer applications, uh remember if
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you're not a part of our program just
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yet, uh we do have a workshop at the
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beginning of summer, one at the end of
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summer, and the goal is to get you
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finished with your sum with your college
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applications uh before everyone else.
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So, if you want to register, check it
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And if you haven't already, uh, and
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recommendations on what exactly that you
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should do to improve your chances. And
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don't worry, nothing's going to be for
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if you want access to that assessment,
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every single week we do send out a
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and also you get like up-to-date insider
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trends. I think within this past week we
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had a admissions letter about appeals.
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So, if you are a senior right now or
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you want to learn more about appeals, uh
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check a uh take take a look at our uh
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our newsletter to be able to see what
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are the tips on how to approach that.
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And uh for our families, if you are a
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part of our coaching families, we do
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have our own research or internship
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program. If you didn't know about it,
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but if you are already part of our
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coaching programs, we you can purchase
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another program um as an add-on uh to
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get to a re to get a research program.
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And the research program, the way it
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works is the goal is to pair you up with
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a professor uh one-on-one who will
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mentor you on how to complete your own
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independent research paper. And that
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will give you exposure to how to conduct
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research. And this will also help you
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stand out in the admissions process as
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well. And because you're going through
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kind of a rigorous kind of uh curriculum
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in a sense of how to do research, uh
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you're going to receive credit from UC
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San Diego extension. You can you
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actually have to purchase this
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unfortunately uh separately. This is not
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from us. This from UC San Diego um so
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that you can add it onto your college
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transcript. So if you want that
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additional points on your application
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process, text research and then we'll be
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be able to learn more and uh the
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internship program as well. So if you
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want work based experience and you
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you'll get a real world project that you
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can deliver to the company and usually
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it's with a virtual startup. So you
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there's not a specific location to it.
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You'll get paired with an employer that
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fits your interest. So, if you're
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interested in AI, we'll try to find an
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AI uh uh startup to be able to work
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with. If you want to uh look into any
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type of type of software or whatever, we
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can pair you up and try to find you the
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right one. Our goal is to be kind of
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like a intermediary uh matchmaker where
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we'll be able to find your interest and
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then be able to find an employer that
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can work with you. Also, you can get a
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letter of completion by the company and
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potentially a letter of recommendation
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if you do well. So if you don't have a
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summer activity yet or summer experience
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yet, you can text internship and we can
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be able to set up a call where you can
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learn more about this part particular
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program. Again, if you are interested in
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any of the resource Oh, so sorry that
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number is wrong. Uh so text this number
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with any of this here programs,
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projects, uh intensive, coach, news,
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internship, and research. Okay. All
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right. So, now we're going to go into
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our Q&A. All right. So, I see a lot of
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questions here. Uh, I'm going to look
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from the Q&A box first. Hey, Coach
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Victor. I'm looking for ideas for summer
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activities for someone who's interested
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in engineering. Uh, text programs to us.
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You'll be able to find some engineering
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programs there. Uh, but usually the
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number one thing that people are very
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competitive is like Cosmos. That usually
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tends to be the one. If you're based in
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the Bay Area, something to consider is
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like trying to reach out to like local
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startups and uh seeing if you could be
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able to network your way into one. What
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are your thoughts about online pre-ol
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courses like what USC offers?
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Uh it's they're not as like helpful as
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as I would say. Uh yes, taking those
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online courses, but they're the thing is
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they're not college credited. And that's
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that's the issue. Uh to be quite honest,
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a lot of these private schools will have
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a lot of cash grab uh cash grab kind of
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summer enrichment programs where you
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have to pay like thousands on thousands
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just to be able to experience what
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college is like. And especially if it's
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online, that's even like kind of worse,
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I would say. Uh so so I would say to
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just look for like accredited
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experiences. I like accredited um like
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that's why dual enrollment is so
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important because it's already
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accredited by the university. So, if
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it's doesn't have any college credit,
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then I wouldn't consider it. Uh, is the
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summer before ninth grade too early for
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pre-ol? USC says ages 14 and up, but
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application asks for high school courses
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taken. It's not too early. Uh, there's I
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mean, every single summer is worthwhile.
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So, I would say to go for it and it it
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doesn't hurt to uh be able to um
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participate in that in 8th grade. Where
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do high schoolers find internships? Most
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of the ones we see are for college age.
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Yeah, high school internships are hard
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to find and that's because a lot of
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employers don't want to hire high school
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students and I'm sure y'all can imagine
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why. Most high school internships are
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typically um through networking I would
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say. So, as someone who taught a lot
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about career exploration and helped a
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lot of students get internships in the
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past, a lot of it tends to be from like
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internal networks and knowing uh people
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who are willing to teach a high school
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student. Uh, is it a bad idea to do an
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internship for a parent if a student
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wants to
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uh I think there's a typo here. Go to
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the same field of graphic design. Uh,
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for a parent if the student wants to go
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is a bad idea for internship for a
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parent. Okay, sorry. Uh, maybe you might
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need to re retype that question. Uh, I
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think that was there's like some words
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missing in there. Uh, some other
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questions. Do colleges look more closely
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at every at students who do more
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expensive summer sessions at their
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colleges? For example, KPOL has some
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summer programs where you live on
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campus, take classes for a few weeks,
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and it's a few thousand. Seems
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expensive. Uh, does it give you extra
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points? Not necessarily. No, not at all.
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I mean, it helps with like the
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supplemental application on things what
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to write about, but again, remember that
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it's not like require it's it's not like
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everybody experienced that that got in.
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So, I would say it's don't feel like as
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if you got to go to the summer program
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just just to get into that school. So, I
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wouldn't say it's necessarily worth it.
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If you take uh if you take math courses
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over summer and finish the community
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college math offerings, is a good idea
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to take more math a local CSU or UC? For
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a student who's looking at competitive
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engineering programs, would this be a
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good way to demonstrate use summer and
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possibly differentiate themselves? Yes.
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If you do find that there are some
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available CSU or UC like math courses,
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enrichment courses, those are good those
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are good ways as well. Uh and again
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something to consider is how do you
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balance yourself as well. Uh I think a
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lot of students and parents tend to go
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for the academia but don't forget too
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much about like the extracurriculars
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about how can they apply the math
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towards something. So try to create
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something out of it. So it's a yes and
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uh yes go to those uh particular courses
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and uh and try to see if there's a way
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that they can apply those skills. How
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about work lifeguarding certain
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instructor? Yeah, work is great too. Um
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the only thing is that sometimes it's
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not really a learning experience. Like
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for example, you can it looks I remember
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college admissions is additive. So it's
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always going to look good in a sense of
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you have something at least for the
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summer. But the thing is it's not really
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too related or unless I don't know
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unless they really want to go into
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aquatics or something in the future. I
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don't know. But like uh usually for
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those type of part-time jobs, there's
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not much learning that that you can get
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from there. So I would possibly consider
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any other opportunities as
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well. Other questions? Uh is it a bad
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idea to do an internship for your own
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parent? Example, father works in graphic
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design at Adobe and son likely wants to
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as well. Okay. Gotcha. Uh, no, it's not
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a bad idea. I mean, also it's like
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you're just don't put in the application
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like, oh, uh, I got an in I had this
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internship experience with my dad or
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something. Uh, try to say like I did
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this internship experience with, uh,
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with Adobe, uh, doing X, Y, and Z. So,
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trying to be able
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to Yeah, just just don't talk about your
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parents in your applications. That's
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that's that's the kind of takeaway. Uh,
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my son is a junior and has a eight-week
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40hour week summer internship and three
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dual enrollments, but also needs to work
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on essay apps. Is it too much trying to
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convince them to drop a dual enrollment,
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right? Uh, that does sound like a lot of
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Uh, yeah. Uh but anyways again the the
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thing is
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um uh students know their own capacity
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and something to consider is like dual
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enrollments there is a drop deadline so
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you can try it out and then there's
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usually like a particular date where
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you're allowed to drop it without like
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having anything negatively impacting
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your transcript. Usually that's about 2
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weeks out from the start date of your uh
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summer classes. So just use that as a
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proxy. Like you can look at the rubrics
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together and you can determine like hey
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there's this much homework, this many
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midterms. Let's map it all out. Do you
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think you can handle this with your
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summer internship and that is a kind of
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a good conversation to have because it
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makes it feel more practical and more
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actionable about what exactly do you
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have to work with. So, I would say like
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it's okay to do all of it at once at
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first and just bring the syllabus or
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syllabi for more than one uh put
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together and then you can be able to
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make that
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decision. All right. You're welcome. Any
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other last questions in the next few
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minutes? I'm just scrolling up to make
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sure I
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don't lose any questions.
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When looking at the course catalog, what
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does 9 hours
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mean? I'm not sure what that means. I'm
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looking at self sociology for my son and
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it says nine
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hours. I'm actually not sure myself. I'm
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not sure if it's like nine hours total
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classes.
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Uh could be. I I think you need to share
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a screenshot or something to be able to
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understand.
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Uh yeah, that's probably a better better
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thing. Uh it seems like a communication
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issue from the community
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college. Okay. Last minute, last call
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for any last
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questions. All right. All right. Thank
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you everyone for joining our webinar. If
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you really enjoyed it, then uh then join
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us for next week and we'll be able to
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give you some more insight. Thanks
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everyone. Have a good night.