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All right, everyone. Welcome, welcome,
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welcome. My name is Coach David. I am
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going to be guiding you through our call
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tonight. Right. Uh our training today is
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about kind of creating the right college
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list to make sure that you have
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financial options. Okay. So, as we're
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going through this, I'm sure that
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there's going to be a lot of families
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that have questions about how to create
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the list or do this or that. So, it's
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kind of a combo training of kind of like
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how to find the right list, right? What
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like the different considerations that
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you should be having and also kind of
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looking at kind of the different
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financial aid offers that you might get
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from schools and the decisions that
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families have made from those. Okay, so
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it is May 14th. It's right at 5:00 right
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now. We're going to get started. If you
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guys can help me out by putting your
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students grade in the chat, this will
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help immensely. Okay, but let's kind of
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get straight to it here. Okay, so the
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first thing is right that we'll cover
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today is kind of like what is a balanced
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list, right? Again, the second is what
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do what do kind of different colleges
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offer when they give you a financial aid
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award and again how to make sure that
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your student has options. Okay. Uh
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couple housekeeping tips here, right?
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Again, we do have these replays
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available for families. Uh if you're in
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our coaching program, it'll be in our
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YouTube channel. If you are one of our
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Facebook families, it we'll make a post
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about this later so that if you want to
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rewatch it or share something with
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someone, we can definitely do that.
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Right now, a little bit about me because
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I do see a couple new people in the
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audience here, right? Uh I am a former
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college and law school admissions
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reader, right? Uh former lawyer myself,
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right? Uh you know, and I've been
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helping families save money for the past
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16 years. I want to continue to do that
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for you as well. Just before this call,
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I did get off a a couple consultations
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with families where it's like, "Oh,
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something went wrong with my older one."
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I'm like, "Yeah, something definitely
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went wrong because you should have been
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saving money for the past four years.
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Your student's now a senior. There's not
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much I can do for you, but you missed
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out on about 40, $50,000, right?" Um,
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and people are so sad, right? They the
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biggest thing I always hear is, "Why
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didn't I find you guys three, four, or
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five years ago, right? So, for those
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families that have sophomores, current
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juniors, right? Even freshman, right?
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eighth graders, right? Listen up because
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this is going to hopefully save you a
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bunch of money in the future. Okay, so
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before I start the training though,
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right, again, it is combo training,
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right? So, I'm going to be talking about
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college admissions and financial aid,
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right? But the one thing I always ask
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juniors, families when I see them is,
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has your students started with
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applications? Right? Because our
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students have, right? And so, if the
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answer to my question is no, right, you
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want to make sure that you're listening
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to this part very carefully, right? We
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do have a program to help you with the
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college applications, right? It is our
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college app intensive. We call it our CI
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for short, right? It consists of two
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different parts, right? It's two
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different weekends, right? Uh one
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weekend in April, May or June that helps
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students come up with drafts and ideas
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for their essays and another weekend in
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July, August and September to help you
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make those rough drafts, final drafts.
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Okay. If you are interested, I will have
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a link later that you can reach out to
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our team or you can also get read more
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about it at our website
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collegeappointensive.com.
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Okay. All right. But with that, let's
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kind of get into the training and let's
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first talk about the college list. Now,
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when we're talking about college list,
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there's going to be some terms that I
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use, right? And I want to go over them
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with people so that they understand what
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they mean. Okay? So, these are terms
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that are normally kind of put out there,
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right? Reach, targets, and safeties. But
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I think people don't really specify what
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that means. And I will tell you what it
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means to me. It might be a little
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ambiguous to you, but this is how I
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think about the list. Okay, so for reach
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schools, these are colleges that you are
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less likely to get into, right? Whether
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it be the competition or kind of like
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the profile that you have compared to
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the average student there, any of those
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things, right? It is a school where it
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is less likely that you are going to get
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in. Okay, for target schools, right?
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These are colleges where you are more
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likely to get in. Right? Safety is are
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colleges that you are very likely to get
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into. Okay. Now, there's other things.
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Early action, restrictive early action.
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Uh I think I did a presentation on this
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in a different training kind of at a
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different time. Uh but early action,
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restrictive early action are different
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ways of applying. There's early action,
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restrictive early action, early
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decision, and regular decision. Okay.
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early action or restrictive early
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action. They have different kind of
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deadlines. They have different kind of
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uh notification dates and they also have
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different restrictions as you can see by
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the restrictive part, right? So early
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action is the least restrictive out of
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all of them. You turn in your
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application by November. You get a
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result before the end of the year,
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right? Um and you can decide whether or
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not you want to go to that school,
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right? A key example of this um is uh
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USC, right? There's also schools that
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have restrictive early action or single
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choice early action such as Stanford.
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Okay, the same thing applies. Apply by
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November 1st, notified by before the end
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of the year, right? You can decide
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whether you want to go or not. But there
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are also other types of restrictions
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here. One namely being that you're not
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allowed to apply early action or early
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decision to any other school. Okay, so
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keep that in mind there. Okay, there are
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restrictions. Okay, early decision is
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the most restrictive of the bunch,
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right? You can only do one school early
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decision, right? And that is because if
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you do get in, right, you must go. Okay?
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Again, there are situations where
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students have not gone to their early
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decision choices, but they're very far
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and few between. So, keep that in mind
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Okay? All right. So, as far as a college
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list, we're talking about balance,
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right? And so, balance is the key term
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that I want you to take away from
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today's training. Right? Now, here's the
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thing. I don't care if you apply to 10
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colleges or 100 colleges, right? The
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biggest piece of the puzzle is you need
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to understand where your bottom is,
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right? And a lot of people are like,
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"What do you mean?" Right? So, I'll
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explain it to you a little bit. Okay?
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What I mean by that is that you need to
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establish a safety school that you would
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be happy going to, right? Then we can
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build the list around that. Okay? So,
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let's say that we have a student, right?
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Has done very well in school. Um, you
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know, they live in Southern California
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and you know what? They say, "I'm really
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happy if I would go to CSULA, right? I
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would actually be very happy, right? But
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let's say that they're a very kind of
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high achiever, right? CSULA for them is
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probably going to be a school that is a
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safety school. But if they're happy to
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stay kind of like in Southern
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California, in Los Angeles, right,
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because that's where their family is,
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then okay, they might that's where their
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bottom is. Okay? If they're happy going
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to that school, there's different people
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that take different kind of strategies
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when they when they create their college
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list. If they're like, "Okay, well, this
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is a school that I'm mo like I'm almost
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like sure that I'm going to get into,
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right?" Then maybe the student just goes
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for Ivy Leagues, right? Or maybe the
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student says, "Well, I'm gonna apply to,
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you know, a variety of different schools
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and give myself a little diversity,
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right? But the one thing I'm going to
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say here is again balance, right? So
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again, if we have a safety school and
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then we we just want to apply to Ivy's,
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I'm okay with that as long as you are
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really happy about having that bottom
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school there." Okay. Another kind of key
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piece of information that I'm going to
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give you here or like advice is you need
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to make sure that your safety is an
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objective safety. Okay? Just because you
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put it in your safety category does not
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make it an actual safety. So let's say
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we have a student, right, has not really
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pushed in their academics, has not
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really pushed in their activities,
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right? Let's just say that they played
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one sport and that's all they did
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activity-wise. Okay? And then let's also
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say that they're a straight B student,
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right? Just because I put Stanford on my
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list in the safety category does not
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mean that it is a safety school. Okay?
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It needs to be objectively safety. Okay?
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Keep that in mind. This is the time
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where I want you to be more
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self-critical than not. Okay? Be more
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critical about your profile. Be more
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critical about the things you've done.
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Right? So that again you create a more
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balanced list. Okay? So keep that in
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mind there. Now, I'm going to kind of
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walk through different students. I'm
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going to give you examples. I'm also
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going to give you examp like uh kind of
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uh where their families were roughly
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financially so I can talk to you about
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why I chose certain schools for them or
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why I kind of advise them to apply to
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different types of schools. Okay. So,
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let's kind of go on to case study number
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one. Okay. The first student, this
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student wanted to study computer
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science, right? This is like kind of the
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advanced coursework that they had taken
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and honors coursework that they had
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taken, right? Their SAT was at 15:30.
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Activities wise, robotics, right? They
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were captain, right? Personal project in
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baking, right? They were parts of
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different clubs at school. They were
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also they also did internships, right?
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They did research and then they were
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also kind of on the track team for
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varsity. Okay. So, this is just like
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like a snapshot of the student. Okay.
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Now, the student when they wanted to
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kind of like what they wanted from the
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college was this, right? So, they wanted
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west coast or east coast. They didn't
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want anything really in the middle of
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the country, okay? They wanted a medium
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to large school. So, what that means to
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me is kind of like 80 to like 8K plus,
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right? Medium is usually 8 to 10K,
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right? Uh large is anything 20 plus, 20K
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plus. Okay? Uh the student when it came
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to diversity, they came from a minority
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background. They wanted diversity on
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their campus, right? Another reason why
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they they they didn't want kind of more
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Midwest schools or kind of those sorts
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of schools. Okay? uh they wanted to be
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have a vibrant social life right in city
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wanted to be close to a major city. They
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also had concerns about financial aid.
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Okay, because obviously they wanted to
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make sure that their family could afford
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it, right? So if we look at the family
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situation, right? The family the
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household income was around 260,000,
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right? They owned their family home,
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right? No rental units, no businesses.
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They had about 50k and a 529 and they
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had retire retirement assets in the kind
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of $600,000 range. Okay, so that is what
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the family had. Now, these were the
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schools that the student applied to. So,
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California student, of course, you're
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applying to UC's, you're applying to
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some CSUs, right? These are the CSUs
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that are good for kind of computer
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science, right? Engineering, right? UC's
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across the board are great in that area,
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right? Also, apply to USC. Right? Now, I
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did let them know USC is going to be one
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of those schools that is not as
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generous, right? They like holding on to
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their money. Uh Santa Clara, I said,
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"Hey, this is a school that is great.
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great connections for kind of the
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industries that you're looking for,
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right? It's right in Silicon Valley.
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Stanford, same thing, right? But
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obviously a reach school for anybody.
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Carnegie Melon, another reach school,
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right? But a great school, right?
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Georgia Tech, I let them know at Georgia
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Tech, you're going to get nothing, but
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it is a very good school for your major,
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right? John's Hopkins, right? They're
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usually very generous. NYU is the other
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school that is not usually very
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generous, right? Uh we I also added on
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Boston University, Northeastern, Emory,
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Duke, and Case Western. When I asked the
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student what their bottom was, right?
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This student let me know I'm okay going
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to Mercer, right? So, you'll actually
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see that a lot of the schools on here,
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we do have schools that are more targets
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for this student, right? Boston
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University, I think, is more of a
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target. Case Western is more of a
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target. Nor Eastern is more of a target.
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But the other schools, they're very
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high, right? Santa Clara is probably
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more of a target for this student,
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right? But the other schools are all
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reach schools because the student was
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able to clearly define to me that she
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was okay going to Mercer for computer
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science. Okay. So that's what happened
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there. Okay. Now I want to go over the
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offers that this student got. Okay.
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Again hopefully you guys remember what I
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had said about the family earlier around
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260K own family home about $600,000 in
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assets. Uh I it was about $50,000 in a
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529. This is what we were able to get.
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Right. So, uh, at we we edge island.
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Unfortunately, we didn't get in there,
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right? Um, they were later accepted, uh,
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they were deferred and accepted, right?
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Um, but we chose kind of elsewhere,
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right? They got $8,000 from UCLA, $8,000
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from Berkeley. If you get something from
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one UC, you're probably going to get the
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same thing from the other UC's, right?
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Plus or minus probably, I don't know,
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10%. Right? At Johns Hopkins, we got um,
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you know, $27,000. At Case Western,
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right? She was a very competitive
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student at Case Western. They offered
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her $53,000, right? At Nor Eastern, we
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got $70,000, right? At Georgia Tech, got
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in, right? So, very happy about her
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getting in, right? But it was a Z offer,
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right? Because it's an out ofstate
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public school. I tell families all the
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time, out of state public schools, you
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have to think you're paying full price,
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right? And at USC, we got $22,000. Okay?
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But, right, again, maybe I'll kind of
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pull the audience, right? Where do you
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think the student
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chose some ideas? Where do you think she
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went? Okay, I said I see some people
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kind of saying uh that she went to
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Georgia Tech. I have others saying that
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she went to John's Hopkins, right? Uh
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other family I have says went to UC
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Berkeley.
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Okay. All right. So, lots of different
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things here. Okay. So, drum roll, right?
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Like my little friends there are doing,
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my little characters, right? Uh but this
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student decided to go to Berkeley. Okay.
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Um so this student did get into electric
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electrical engineering computer science,
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right? And so right I want to kind of go
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over the total cost for you, right? What
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this student was going to be paying.
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Okay. So the tuition is about
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$17,500, right? Living expenses right
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around 22. The total cost to go to
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Berkeley with just tuition and fees and
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living expenses was $40,000. Okay. So,
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the free amount that she was awarded,
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right, the free money she was awarded
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was 8K, right? Which brings the cost
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down to about $32,000 per semester at
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Berkeley, she's going to be paying
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$16,000 a semester. Okay? Now, compared
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to some of the other offers that she
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got, right? Again, if you do the same
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math, right, she might have been paying
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a way a whole lot more, right? So, just
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for instance, like at
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uh USC, right? USC, I believe, kind of
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the total cost of attendance, uh, kind
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of like the the tuition and fees and the
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living expenses rack up to
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about I think it's right around like
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$92,000. They give her $22,000 a year,
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right? Uh, again, so that's around 70.
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You divide that by two, they're on a
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semester system. So that means that she
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would be paying
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$35,000 a semester at USC instead. Okay.
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But this student, right, there was a lot
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of different factors. The student was
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from the Bay Area, right? The student
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wanted to stay closer to home if given
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the option, right? The student also was
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looking at costs because again, uh
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didn't want to have a huge amount of
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debt over their head as they left
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college, right? So, the family decided
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on Berkeley because it made both
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financial sense but sense for the
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student. Okay? Again, that's why we want
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to have diversity so that we can kind of
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decide where we want to go after all
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kind of everything kind of like we know
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all of the information. Okay, so that
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was student one there. Okay, now I have
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another student that I want to show you
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guys as well, right? So this student
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wanted to major in business. Okay, these
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were the kind of the AP classes that
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this student took that the student ended
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with the SAT of 1480 activities wise,
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right? He was part of DECA, FBLA, he had
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leadership positions in both, right? uh
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did a personal project and he did a
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nonprofit benefiting children of abuse,
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right? Uh was on varsity tennis, played
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a musical instrument and also took part
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in the diamond competition which is a
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business competition. Okay, so those are
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some of the highlights from this
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student. So let's kind of look at the
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family or like kind of what the students
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wants were and also the family kind of
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situation, right? So location, the
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student didn't care, right? It could be
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on the west coast, it could be in the
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middle, it can be on the kind of like
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east coast, right? the south, but he
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wanted to be closer to a major city, a
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big city. Okay. Uh, wanted a small to
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medium campus, right? 1 to 8,000
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population is kind of how I determined
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small, small to medium. Um, minority
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student background as well, wanted
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diversity. So, the desires were kind of
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like urban center, near hubs of finance,
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opportunities from school to connect to
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industry, and also again financial aid
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concerns. Most of the people joining my
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program for financial aid have financial
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aid concerns. that's why they join,
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right? Uh if you don't have financial
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concerns, I'm not exactly sure why
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you're here, right? Um but this family,
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$180,000 income, owned their family
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home, no rentals, no businesses, they
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didn't have a 529, and the retirement
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and assets were about 380K. Okay, so
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this is that family. Okay. Now, when I
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was coming up with schools for this
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student, right, there were some schools
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that I kind of like wanted to make sure
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that the student understood, hey, there
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are things again, same thing here, that
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aren't necessarily going to make sense,
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but we want to give ourselves diversity,
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right? So, UC's, right? So, Brownie
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points to someone that can tell me why,
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right? But the UC's that this student
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applied to were only Berkeley, Irvine,
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Davis, and Riverside. Okay? Only those
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four UC's. Can someone tell me why this
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student only applied to those four
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UC's? Maybe, maybe not. Can someone tell
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me? Right, I'm going to give you guys a
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second to think about it. Right. So, why
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only those four
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UC's? Any ideas, guesses? Put them in
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the chat. Put them in the
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Okay. Uh, I have someone in the Q&A that
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said they have family around there. Not
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exactly. Okay. We have someone that got
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the answer right. The answer is that
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those are the only four campuses that
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have business majors. Okay. So, some
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people right now might be very
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surprised. What? UCLA has a business
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major for, you know, business major. And
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my answer is yes, it does for graduate
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students, but not for undergraduate
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students, not for college students.
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Okay? So, Berkeley, Irvine, Davis, and
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Riverside are the only UC's that have a
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business major for undergraduate
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programs. Okay? Keep that in mind. And
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Davis is actually just opening this
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year. Okay. Uh the student also applied
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to some CSUs that had some like
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particular kind of business programs
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that he was very interested in, right?
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So St. Louis Bispo, San Diego State, San
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Jose State, and Fullerton. Okay. Applied
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to USC, Marshall School of Business,
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very good. Carnegie Melon, right? Ter
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School of Business, very good. Right.
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University of Michigan. This is one of
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the the schools where I was like, are
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you sure you want to apply here? And
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like the student just wanted to apply,
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right? So we left it on the list.
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knowing that we're going to not get any
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financial aid here, right? Ross School
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of Business is obviously great, right?
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Nor Eastern, Boston University. Again,
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we still have chances here. They're
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private schools, right? UT Austin,
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right? And UI Kelly, these are very
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popular schools. UT Austin Mcome's
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School of Business and UCI Kelly School
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of Business. The one thing about Texas
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that I like and the one thing about uh
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Indiana that I like are that the the
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cost of tuition and the cost of living
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are so low that it makes it almost
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around the price of a full price UC.
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Okay. So, uh UT Austin and UI Kelly were
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on there. NYU obviously you know Stern
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School of Business is rated in the top
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three kind of every year, right? I also
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had schools that were very very focused
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on business. Babson, right? And
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Claremont McKenna, right? I also had
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other options because the student also
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was like, "Yeah, West Coast, right?
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Let's see what other options there are."
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So, I added University of San Diego, a
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little bit more of a safety for this
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student. Pepperdine, right? Maybe a low
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target, right? LMU, which I thought was
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a safety for this student. Santa Clara,
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again, great kind of, you know, there's
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a lot of business opportunities in the
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Silicon Valley. And then we had other
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safeties like Syracuse. Okay. Now for
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this suit, for this student, for the
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UC's, there were no necessarily like
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safeties, right? Because Berkeley,
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Irvine, Davis, Riverside for business
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are still very, very, very competitive,
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right? So the safety for this student
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was actually Syracuse, right? We were
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almost positive that the student was
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going to get into Syracuse here, right?
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Some of the CSUs might have been a
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little easier for him to get into as
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well. Um maybe like Fullerton, right?
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San Los A Bispo, San Diego State, San
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Jose State are still very, very strong
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when it comes to business majors. Okay,
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so let's talk about the offers, right?
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Again, we always like to see what people
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got, right? So here at UCI, we were able
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to get them $12,000 a year, right? USC,
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$42,000 a year. Boston University,
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$38,000 a year. At Claremont McKenna, we
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got him $64,000 a year. Right? USD,
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University of San Diego, we got him
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75,000. And at Syracuse, we got 72,000.
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Okay, now again, we'll do the same
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thing. Where do you think this student
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up? Okay, look at all these offers,
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right? You guys know the rough cost of
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each one, right? You know, uh, you know,
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private schools cost around 90, right?
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UC's cost around 45, right? So on and so
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forth. Where do you think this student
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up? Right? I have a student that's or I
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have a family that's saying UCI. Another
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family is saying USC. Another family
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saying Boston University. Okay. We have
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USC. Okay. All right. So, let me tell
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you where this student ended up. This
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student ended up at Claremont McKenna.
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Okay. Now, a lot of you guys might be
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saying, "What is that school?" Well,
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it's part of the Claremont Colleges in
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Southern California, right? Uh I went to
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the Claremont Colleges as well. Um, and
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this school is very well known for econ,
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business, finance, government, those
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types of areas. Okay, now let's look at
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kind of what the costs are. Okay, so the
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tuition plus the living expenses for
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Clare McKenna, they total
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$94,310. The amount awarded is
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$64,000. Right? The total out of pocket
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is $30,000. Per semester, this student
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is paying $15,000 to go to a $100,000
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school per year.
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Okay, that's what they're paying. Okay,
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so that's what we were able to do for
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this family. Now, a lot of you guys
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again chose different schools that this
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student probably chose, a UC or Boston
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University, right? Or USC. But, right,
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the student applied to these schools
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because again, they wanted diversity in
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their college list, right? But if you
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actually looked at what they wanted,
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they wanted a smaller campus, right?
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They wanted a more intimate feel.
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Claremont McKenna does that for him,
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right? Because it's around 1500
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students, right? That's it. That's the
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student body size. Now, one of the
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things that is a little bit different
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about the Claremont Colleges is that
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there's five undergraduate colleges that
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are literally stuck together. No, it's
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not down the street or down the freeway.
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It's literally next to each other. All
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five campuses are connected. Okay? So,
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when all of those five campuses with
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about 1500 people each gets together,
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it's about 7,000 people, right? USC was
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too big for him. Okay? Uh UCI too big
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for him, right? uh Boston University was
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right around the same size but he
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preferred California and that's why we
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chose Claremont McKenna. Okay. So as we
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have gone through these different things
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one of the things that you'll realize is
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that it's not just about the ranking
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it's about where the what the student
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really wants to do in the future. It's
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also about what they really want out of
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their college experience. Okay, rankings
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are good to start formulating a list,
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right? But in order to find the right
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schools that would fit for you, because
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this school, this student actually
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didn't even know about Claremont McKenna
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until I told them, right? Um, you need
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to make sure that you're looking at
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other factors that the student wants.
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Okay. All right. So, quick takeaways
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here. Okay. I think one of the biggest
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things that you can take away from this
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is that you need to understand what the
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bottom is. the bottom of your list so
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that you can build either up, right? Or
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you if you say, "Oh, this is my this is
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my bottom, right?" We have to think, is
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it really objectively a safety or is it
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more of a target, right? If it's more of
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a target, then we need to start building
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up and down, right? With schools that
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you're happy with. Okay? So, understand
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what your bottom is, right? The second
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thing is with more acceptances, students
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have options to think about like and
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kind of uh to think about the options
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that they have and make their final
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decision about where they're going to
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fit in the best. Okay? So, I'm not
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saying that you should apply to colleges
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just to get an acceptance letter. They
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need to be schools that you're happy
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going to. But with more options on the
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table like these students had, they were
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able to look at the financial costs.
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They were able to look at how it fits
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them and choose from there. Okay. And
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the final thing is depending on your
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situation, it might be cheaper going to
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a private school than going to a public
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school. Right? If you actually look,
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yes, I know that there's differences in
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income, but Right. Uh if you actually
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look, this student's going to a $100,000
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university for $15,000 a year. The other
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student is going to UC Berkeley for
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$15,000 a semester, right? So, they're
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paying the same amount. Obviously, the
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education that they're getting is both
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great, but it is very, very different,
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right?
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Um, all right. So, really quickly, I do
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see some questions. And again, if you do
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have questions, use this time as I'm
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kind of like going over our great
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results and bragging a little bit to put
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your questions in the Q&A or in the
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chat. Okay? But our students have gotten
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into great schools. NYU, MIT, Penn,
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Notre Dame, Boston University, Carnegie
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Melon, UC's across the board, right? Uh
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I would I would I think that it'll be
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very hard to find another company that
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has sent as many kids to UCLA per year
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than our company. Okay. We've also sent
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students to Michigan, TUS, Harvey, MUD,
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Chicago, Caltech, right? Uh UC's across
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the board again and Brown. Okay. So, we
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have been very very lucky to have
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students that are very super motivated
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and that work super hard with us to make
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sure that they get to their dream
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schools. Okay. Now, another piece of the
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puzzle is that we also get them tens of
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thousand dollars a year. Okay, so
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remember our program is here to help. If
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you do have questions, make sure to
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reach out. Right, here's just some of
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our results, right? Again, we have this
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family, right? Again, around $350,000.
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We were able to save them like 30, 35,
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37 from various schools, right? This
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family, we were able to save them right
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around kind of like $30,000 roughly
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speaking, right? This family going to
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Baylor, we were able to save them
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$42,000 a year, right? So again, the
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results are real, right? They're real
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people in our programs. Okay. So, once
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again, I do want to make sure that you
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guys have the ability to reach out to
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us. The QR codes are there, right, for
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you to scan, set up a meeting with us so
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we can talk, right? There's also a
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number that you can text your
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9497750865. You can text either money or
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college that our team will reach out to
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you and see what you need, right? What
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questions you have and help you out that
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way as well. Okay. But I do see some
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questions, right? And so let us kind of
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talk about kind of what the questions
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are, right? Uh so the question I have
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that is kind of first up is says are
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there any UC's uh that are a safety for
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engineering, right? Or is everything
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other than Berkeley engineer Berkeley or
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UCLA considered a target? So that's a
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very broad question and very ambiguous
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because I know nothing about your
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student, right? So depending on where
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your student sitting, right? There might
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be some schools that are safeties,
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right? For my student that was uh you
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know the student that we had above,
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right? um that took all those kind of AP
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classes was doing a lot of great things
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for computer science. I would say that
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Merrced is a safety for that student,
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right? Um but UC Berkeley, UCLA, UC San
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Diego, even Santa Barbara for some
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students are considered reaches, right?
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Um and then for some students, again, it
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all depends on the situation, but um the
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UC's in general, Berkeley, LA, San
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Diego, I say are reaches for any
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student, right? Starting with Santa
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Barbara, it'll depend on where your
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student is, right? So it might be a
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reach, it might be a target, right? But
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I don't think Santa Barbara is ever a
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safety for anybody, right? Davis and
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Irvine are never a safety for anybody,
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right? But Riverside, Merrced, Santa
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Cruz might be a safety for some
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students. Okay. So something to keep in
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mind there.
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Okay. All right. So that's the one
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question I had. I don't know if there's
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any other questions. Okay. Um but I'll
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kind of like give people another minute
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or so to go ahead and ask additional
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questions, right? Um, but again, this is
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very specific to your student, right?
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So, it's very different, right? Um, but
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if you guys do have questions, make sure
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to put them in there. Um, but hopefully
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that answers your question as far as are
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there safeties for engineering for some
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students. Yes, there are.
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Okay. All right. So, just one last thing
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before we go. I'm going to leave this
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screen up because I don't see any
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additional questions. If you guys do
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have questions, make sure to reach out
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on Facebook, in your Discord channels,
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right? wherever you can to make sure
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that you get in touch with us so that we
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can kind of answer your questions. We're
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always here to answer questions. We want
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to do Q&A, right? But sometimes you guys
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don't ask questions of us, right? So,
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we're sad sometimes. So, just make sure
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that next time, right, if you guys are
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going to be joining us, have a question
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or two in mind because I'm sure that you
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do have a question. I know that there's
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a lot of people that are shy as well.
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So, again, you can send it in the Q&A.
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No one else will see it or you can send
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it to just hosts and panelists and I
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will see it only. Okay? There's no bad
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question, right? It's just I think the
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the kind of like again there's no bad
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question. The bad thing is actually
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being uninformed, right? That is worse
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than asking a question that you just
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don't know the answer to yet.
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Okay. All right.
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Uh my student is kind of similar to your
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student too. Okay. Uh again this is a
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very personal question, right? We have
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to understand what the student wants
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because again for my student University
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of Indiana Kelly it was like okay that's
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a big enough student like like city for
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him but other students might think oh my
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god Indiana where's that like is that in
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a different country right and so it
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won't really make sense right um but if
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they are studying political science
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again I need to understand where like
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how what does their rigor look like
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right are there any other considerations
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like testing what does their activities
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look like right so again we have to see
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Right? So even if you're talking about a
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UC, I can't answer that question, right?
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Because I need to understand everything
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about the student before I'm able to
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give that recommendation. But generally
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speaking, if your student has been a
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high achieving student, right? Then
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there's going to be some schools that
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are reaches targets and safeties. But if
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your student is interested in political
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science, the two best at political
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science are going to be Berkeley and San
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Diego, right? So depending on majors,
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the ranking of the UC's changes, okay?
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Um so keep that in mind.
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Okay. All right. Thank you for adding on
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that last question there. Okay. So, I'm
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going to leave this up just for a quick
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second. Uh, please sign up. Right. If
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you're a junior right now and you
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haven't talked to me about financial
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aid, I've been telling families for like
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the last 6 months. Okay. Uh, this is
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time. You don't have any more time to
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wait. Um, you need to sign up now if
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you're going to sign up. So, you need to
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talk to me to see if I can help or not.
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Okay. So, I'll leave this screen up. I
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hope everyone has a good day. Right. It
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got cold where I am at, but it's
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starting to get hotter again. So,
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everyone, you know, enjoy the weather
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and if you guys have any questions,
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reach out. I'll talk to you guys later.
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Have everyone have a good night.
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Bye-bye.