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This is Donald Trump's phone number in
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Jeffrey Epstein's personal little black
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book from the 1990s. In 2021, Business
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Insider obtained an address book no one
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had ever seen before.
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Jeffrey Epstein got away with what he
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got away with because of who was in his
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address book.
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What's interesting for us about this
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book is a a new cast of characters who
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we didn't previously know had
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interactions with or did business with
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While the Trump administration says it
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won't disclose more files on Epstein,
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the older address book reminds us of
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Epstein's vast connections to prominent
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figures, including Melania Trump's best
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friend, Christopher Cuomo's wife, and an
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adviser in the first Trump
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administration.
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Our first thought was to just do
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whatever we could to verify that it was
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We've obtained a copy of an address book
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that we believe belonged to Jeffrey
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Epstein. And your name and contact
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information are listed in the book.
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I'm a reporter for Insider. I'm just
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calling everybody who's in this address
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book who has not previously been
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publicly associated with Jeffrey
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Epstein. We needed to make sure it was a
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real artifact that really represented
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something about Jeffrey Epste and his
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connections to people.
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The story is not one that sounds exactly
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believable. Someone dropped Jeffrey
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Epstein's address book in the '90s and
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now belongs to some guy who lives on a
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farm in Vermont.
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I'm very careful not to put my
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fingerprints on the book, not to put any
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sort of DNA or hair or anything like
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My name is Christopher Halali. Where
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should I look? I currently live on my
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wife's farm. As a student of national
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security issues, imperialism, I was
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fascinated by the Jeffrey Epstein case.
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There are names that are highlighted and
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I think one of the most notable
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highlighted names is uh former President
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Donald Trump.
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My name is Denise Ando. Tada. And I
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believe I found the books sometime in
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the '9s.
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Walking along Fifth Avenue and I just
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noticed a small black book on the
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sidewalk.
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So, you're pretty sure that it was
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somewhere between 54?
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Yes, it could have been here or there.
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We have spoken extensively with Denise
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and we found her story to be credible.
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I saw the book, picked it up, glanced
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through it.
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it was filled with names like Kennedy,
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Rockefeller, Trump, etc. And it was
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like, whoa, this is bizarre. So, I kept
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it for the New York City artifact that
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it was. Did you know who Jeffrey Epstein
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was at the time?
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When I rediscovered the book last year,
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it was like, "Holy, it's Jeffrey
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Epstein."
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A Manhattan billionaire arrested
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yesterday on federal sex trafficking
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charges.
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Accusations from indecent exposure to
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inappropriate touching to rape.
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I went to tips at New York Times. I sent
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something to to Rachel Madd. I just
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figured nobody was interested. Come the
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end of November, I really needed breaks
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for my car and I didn't have enough
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money. And I thought,
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"What the hell?" You know, you Jeffrey
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Epstein, you know, you you paid for my
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breaks. So, I put it on eBay.
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It was right there for everybody to see.
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Most people would think it's a fake or a
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forgery. I took the risk.
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When I received the book in the mail, my
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heart was nearly jumping out of my my
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chest. You know, I felt like Indiana
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It's a dark book. It's a book that I
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think has a lot of suffering behind it,
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a lot of pain, a lot of evil some would
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say. I felt that it was important for
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people to see who Epstein knew and what
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sort of network of power was behind him.
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Right now, I'm packaging the book for
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forensic analysis
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and handing it off to a team of
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journalists.
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if it comes back and it's not authentic.
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it's a pretty awesome forgery. I have to
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one of the moments in the public waking
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up to the magnitude of his crimes was
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the publication in 2015 of an address
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book belonging to Jeffrey Epstein. And
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what was stunning about it was it
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contained the names of Donald Trump and
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Mc Jagger,
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Prince Andrew,
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Bill Clinton, and it sort of woke people
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up to the fact that this was a guy who
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had access to the halls of power.
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Our reporting also found about 220 new
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names that didn't appear in this other
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address book. If someone were to concoct
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a fake book to trick journalists, they
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would start by taking those names from
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the other public little black book and
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putting them in this one. So, we start
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by sort of correlating the names and
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then we just started calling people in
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the book whose names have not been
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previously associated with Jeffrey
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Epstein.
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Hi. I'm trying to reach Elena Cayam.
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This is she.
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Hi, I'm calling for Suzanne Urcha. Would
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you be able to connect me with her?
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For who?
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I'm trying to reach Joan Severance.
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We don't currently represent Joan. The
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number you dialed is not in service.
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I'm trying to reach Michael Cutlip.
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This is he.
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Elena Barbakova.
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Who's calling?
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I'm working on a story about an address
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that we believe belonged to Jeffrey
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Epstein.
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Do you mind if I'm recording this call?
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Dad, do you mind?
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Okay, give me one second.
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Yeah, I haven't seen this book Jeffrey
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since the late '9s.
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For them to say, um, yes, I knew him in
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the '90s gives credence to the idea that
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the book is real.
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It's not the case that everybody who was
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in his address book was an enabler of
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Jeffrey Epstein. It's more adding to the
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body of knowledge to keep chipping away
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at the mystery.
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She was not interested in speaking.
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These are some of the prominent names we
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reached out to. None of them had ever
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been publicly associated with Epstein
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before.
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Suzanne Urcha, Melania Trump's best
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friend. She later married Woody Johnson,
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who now owns the New York Jets.
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Carl Icon, special adviser to Donald
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Trump during his presidency.
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Christina Grieven, the wife of
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Christopher Cuomo. Jill Hearth accused
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Donald Trump of sexual assault.
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Steven Ratner led Barack Obama's efforts
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to resuscitate Detroit.
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Marty Perez, longtime mentor to former
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Vice President Al Gore. Les Gelb was a
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legendary New York Times columnist.
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Sandy Warner was the chairman and CEO of
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JP Morgan until 2000. Billionaire John
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Katsimentatitis um who told us that he
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offered Epstein a ride and Epstein sent
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him a three-foot bottle of champagne and
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thanks. And this just goes to show that
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in the 1990s he was sort of cultivating
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a much larger orbit that we can see
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evidence later on.
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How you doing?
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Good. How are you?
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We also engaged the services of a
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forensic examiner who's familiar with
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authenticating documents.
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I was cautious because I didn't want to
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cross over into a area that the FBI was
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uh investigating.
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My name is Dennis Ryan and I'm a
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forensic document examiner.
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I'm confident that the book is probably
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circa 1995 to 2000. One of the factors
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was the Gastner imprint that's on the VO
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bind. Their organization was certainly
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out of production by 1998 to 2000. It
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would be very difficult to make up a
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book with that imprint.
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The most important thing is the change
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in the area code.
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So here's Donald Trump's entry in the
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1990s address book. You can see that his
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Palm Beach phone numbers feature a 407
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area code. Now if we look at Trump's
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entry in the address book from the early
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2000s, you can see that he has the same
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phone numbers listed for Palm Beach but
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with a different area code 561. And that
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area code was introduced in 1996.
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Jeffrey Epste is still such a mystery
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over a year after he's died.
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Accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein
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is dead.
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Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys questioning
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whether his death was a suicide.
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I think my biggest takeaway is that
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Epstein had an extremely large sphere of
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influence and we're not even sure about
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the true extent of it. I think this book
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elaborates on that in a different era, a
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different time, and with some different
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people that we didn't know were a part
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of that circle that eventually became a
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part of the reason that Jeffrey Epstein
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could get away with raping and abusing
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women and girls. And I think it's
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important to keep in mind how power is
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able to avoid accountability. And the
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more we can remember what Epstein's
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actions represent, the more we can
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prevent people from escaping
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accountability now and in the future.
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[Laughter]
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What a weird turn of events. How
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serendipitous the whole thing has played
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out. Unbelievable. I just remember
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having that thought. Should I keep this?
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If it was a heavy something or other, I
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probably would have tossed it.
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I think it's an interesting story. You
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know, one book with the FBI, one book on
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the farm. That's fascinating.
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